Tuesday, August 19, 2008

TIFF 2008 Film-List

Here is the Toronto International Film Festival film-list at Darren's TIFF blog, 1st Thursday.

The festival runs for 10 days starting September 4th, and I plan to be there for 8 of those 10 days. I'll drive back once mid-festival to teach my classes.

Here are some films I expect to get tickets for, although I suspect the list will look a bit different when the festival schedule is announced. I'm listing them by program.

-- Special Presentations: 35 Rhums (Claire Denis); Ashes of Time Redux (Wong Kar-wai); Che: parts 1 and 2 (Stephen Soderbergh); Un conte de Noël (Arnaud Desplechin); Me and Orson Welles (Richard Linklater); Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman); Waltz with Bashir (Ari Folman); Gomorrah (Matteo Garrone); Still Walking (Hirokazu Kore-eda); Un Barrage Contre le Pacifique (Rithy Panh); Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist (Peter Sollett).

-- Masters: Les Plages d'Agnès (Agnès Varda); Tokyo Sonata (Kiyoshi Kurosawa); Nuit de chien (Werner Schroeter); 24 City (Jia Zhang-ke); Four Nights with Anna (Jerzy Skolimowski); Of Time and the City (Terence Davies); Le Silence de Lorna (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne); Three Monkeys (Nuri Bilge Ceylan).

-- Wavelengths (avant-garde): Films by James Benning, Jean-Marie Straub, Nathaniel Dorsky, Jim Jennings, Jennifer Reeves, Pat O'Neill, David Gatten, and others.

-- Visions: Birdsong (Albert Serra); Liverpool (Lisandro Alonso); Service (Brillante Mendoza); The Sky Crawlers (Mamoru Oshii); Uncertainty (Scott McGehee & David Siegel).

-- Contemporary World Cinema: L’Heure d’été (Olivier Assayas); Wendy and Lucy (Kelly Reichardt); Sugar (Ryan Fleck & Anna Boden); Treeless Mountain (So Yong Kim); Two-Legged Horse (Samira Makhmalbaf).

-- Dialogues: Agnes Varda discussing La Pointe courte, and Terence Davies his trilogy, Children, Madonna and Child, and Transfiguration.

-- Discovery: Hunger (Steve McQueen).

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I'll be looking to see the Denis film twice if I can. Soderbergh's Che films are also high on my list--who knows what theatrical fate awaits them? I've longed to see a Werner Schroeter movie, and this will be a good chance. Of the lesser-known filmmakers, I enjoyed Peter Sollett's Cannes award-winning short Five Feet High & Rising and the follow-up feature Raising Victor Vargas; I wish there were more good teen films in this vein. Similarly, So Young Kim's strong first film In Between Days has me curious to check out her new one.

Two big disappointments: no Lucretia Martel or Hong Sang-soo.

Here are some filmmakers on the list I've seen absolutely nothing by: Albert Serra, Mika Kaurismäki, Christian Petzold, Ramin Bahrani, Pablo Trapero, Kristian Levring, Nikolaus Geyrhalter, Philippe Falardeau, Paolo Sorrentino.

Any thoughts, suggestions or recommendations of films or filmmakers on the TIFF film-list? They're all welcome.


Blogger dave said...

Definitely try to see the Serra; he's on his own wavelength in many respects. Honor de Cavalleria (the only Serra I've seen) takes a story that's been mythologized (one that's also about the differences between the myth and the real) and grounds it definitively in the real: space, time, light, thought. His aesthetic approach to this grounding is singular.

August 19, 2008 5:01 PM  
Blogger André Dias said...

What I find most curious about the program is the Dialogues section with Agnès Varda on her quite exasperating first film, LA POINTE COURTE (1954). Despite loving some of her work, namely the most wonderful LE BONHEUR (1965), that first one is a deep failure. Some parts are nerve-wrecking and involuntary risible, specially the dialogs between the odd couple, which could be seen as a completely failed anticipation of Resnais' HIROSHIMA MON AMOUR dialogs. But the documentary backdrop of the fishermen's village is very interesting. Varda unfortunately clinched to her fiction and city actors, when the location and local people were screamingly alive...
A while ago, when I saw it, I almost got to write a small piece that would be called «The travelling of Varda», since in that film's beginning there's one of the most abject travellings I've ever seen. One enters a poor fishermen's house through the front door and finds a bunch of starving kids around a table eating scraps. But the camera keeps on moving, smoothly and elegantly in the air, not minding those children and promptly leaving through the back door. It's the most awful aestheticism... But perhaps someone should correct me on this after seeing it and talking to Varda...

Haven't seen those films on Toronto by Albert Serra and Christian Petzold, but their previous ones are worth while. So, even the most anorectic type out there could give them a try...

August 19, 2008 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Daniel said...

I'm excited about all mentioned above, and want to add Yu Lik-wai's new film PLASTIC WORLD. He hasn't made a feature since ALL TOMORROW'S PARTIES, being busy DPing most of Jia Zhangke's projects...

I'd hit the new Kitano too, since his last 2 (3? 4?) haven't made it Stateside in theaters or video.

I look forward to seeing you there Girish, this'll be my first TIFF, I'll look to you for some guidance!

August 19, 2008 6:00 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Dave, I've only read about Honor de Cavalleria, and Serra really piques my curiosity in interviews. What you say about the relationship between the mythic and the real in Honor sounds interesting; I want to see the new one.

André, I've seen La pointe courte, a long time ago. It's not one of my favorite Vardas either, so I'm curious to hear her speak about it. Back in 2000, she accompanied The Gleaners to the festival, and the Q&A (which lasted a full hour) was a marvelous riot. Varda is always bursting with personality, and is great to see in person.

Danny, it's fantastic news that you'll be in Toronto this year. I'll send you my schedule when it's ready, and we should make sure to meet up. I feel like such a fogey; this'll be my 10th TIFF.

August 19, 2008 6:42 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Also, just realized [damn]: no Garrel or Grandrieux.

August 19, 2008 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Michael said...

Girish, if I were attending TIFF this year, most of my first picks would be similar to yours, as they have been in the past. :) I'd definitely go for the new work by Denis, Alonso, Desplechin, Oshii, the Dardennes, Linklater, Assayas, etc. And all the Wavelengths of course. :) Having seen several films by Danny Boyle recently, I'd also likely check out his new film. I'm probably most curious about the new Jia. I really liked last year's Useless, and in the latest issue of Film Comment Amy Taubin had some slightly lukewarm remarks about 24 City -- which only piqued my curiosity. Are you interested at all in the new Egoyan? I haven't heard many good things about it.

It's a real bummer that neither Garrel nor Martel made the final TIFF list. I'm frantically checking the internet for possible future release dates, but realize it's too probably too early for that. Were I going this year, I'd love to attend that Dialogues session with Varda. Could be a real highlight of the festival.

August 19, 2008 7:17 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Michael, I wish you were joining us this year--perhaps you'll be able to do so in '09.

I like Egoyan's early work quite a bit but haven't loved his films of the last 10 years, since The Sweet Hereafter. He's always interesting, though, and I suspect anything he makes would be worth watching for one reason for another.

August 19, 2008 7:27 PM  
Blogger Gareth said...

There's so much to choose from!

I've found Christian Petzold's films very interesting, especially his 2000 "Die Innere Sicherheit". He's very good with actors, but also at creating an unsettling atmosphere, well suited to stories about shifting loyalties and tough-minded decisions.

August 19, 2008 10:45 PM  
Blogger Oggs Cruz said...

Hi Girish,

I believe there are three Filipino films screening in Cannes, all of which are worth catching.

I'm glad you're getting tickets for Brillante Mendoza's Service, which I thought was unfairly bashed in Cannes. I wrote about it when it screened in Manila, sans the more provocative scenes. Here's my review:


Adolfo Alix's Adela is also interesting. It's worth the ticket if only for Anita Linda's beautiful performance. It's good filmmaking too, probably the best Alix has done over the three years he's been directing films (over that three years, he's made something like 10 movies). Here's my review:


Lastly, I think there's a discussion on Lino Brocka's Bayan Ko (My Country). That one's worth a look, if only to get introduced to Brocka's cinema (although that film is more representative of Brocka's more political films; he works best as a social-realist with works like Insiang and Manila in the Claws of Neon.

August 20, 2008 4:10 AM  
Blogger celinejulie said...

--Based on previous works of these directors, I recommend these new films which I haven’t seen:

1.AFTER THE RACE (Nikolaus Geyrhalter, Austria)
Geyrhalter directed OUR DAILY BREAD.

2.CITIZEN JULING (Ing K + Kraisak Choonhavan + Manit Sriwanichpoom, Thailand)
Manit is a great photographer, and I am still deeply shocked by some of his recent photos. I don’t know if his film is good or not, but I recommend the film for those who are interested in politics or religious conflicts.

3.THE COUNTRY TEACHER (Bohdan Slama, Czech)
Slama directed WILD BEES (2001).

4.DERNIER MARQUIS (Rabah Ameur-Zaimeche, France/Algeria)
He directed BLED NUMBER ONE (2006).

5.DIOSES (Josue Mendez, Peru)
Mendez directed DAYS OF SANTIAGO (2004)

6.PANDORA’S BOX (Yesim Ustaoglu, Turkey)
Ustaoglu directed WAITING FOR THE CLOUDS (2003).

7.PUBLIC ENEMY NO. 1 (Jean-Francois Richet, France)
Richet directed ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13 (2005) and ETAT DES LIEUX (1995).

8.SUT (Semih Kaplanoglu, Turkey)
Kaplanoglu directed ANGEL’S FALL (2005) and EGG (2007).

9.UNDER THE TREE (Garin Nugroho, Indonesia)
Nugroho directed AND THE MOON DANCES (1995).

If I have to choose only one film among these, I will choose Kaplanoglu’s film.

--I also wish I could see THE HEADLESS WOMAN by Lucrecia Martel, because Apichatpong said that this is his most favorite film in the Cannes film festival this year. Unfortunately, only Jeanne Balibar and him fought for this film among the Cannes jury, so that’s why it didn’t get any awards. Apichatpong also said that he liked FRONTIER OF DAWN (Philippe Garrel) very much.

August 20, 2008 9:46 AM  
Anonymous Peter Nellhaus said...

Of unseen filmmakers, Kaurismaki is usually pretty interesting. Since several of his films are already on DVD, you can introduce yourself to his work. For Levring, I really liked The King is Alive, also on DVD. I haven't seen anything else by him though.

Any midnight films? The only one I know much about is Chocolate which has received respectful but not overly enthusiastic reviews.

August 20, 2008 10:16 AM  
Blogger Filipe Furtado said...

I can't help with much, but I can say skip all the brazilian films (although word is the Walter Salles film is actually better than usual). Liverpool is great, but I imagine no one needs my reccomendation to see that.

Pablo Aguero has direct some pretty good shorts and two friends of mine who saw it in Cannes were very positive about Salamandra.

I liked Honor of Cavalleria a lot and Serra's new one looks even better. I'm a big Trapero fan, Bahrani is also good. The few Kaurismaki films I've seen didn't do anything for me. Sorrentino is awful.

To bad the new José Mojica Marins film, didn't make into midnight, I'm sure it's much better than anything they are showing.

August 20, 2008 11:14 AM  
Blogger girish said...

Thank you, Gareth, Oggs, Peter, Jit, Filipe.

Let me post links to a couple of comment threads at Darren's 1st Thursday site, in which he, Michael Sicinski, and others discuss the festival selections (and omissions):

This post, and this one.

August 20, 2008 12:13 PM  
Blogger Marc Raymond said...

Yes, it is disappointing and also quite surprising that NIGHT AND DAY is not playing at the festival. Maybe the fact that it opened in February domestically and at Berlin played a part in the decision, who knows. It's too bad because it may be Hong's best film and is certainly his most accessible.

I look forward to hearing about the Soderbergh and many of the other films you'll get a chance to see. Although I'm Canadian, I've actually never attended TIFF because it always overlapped with school and teaching (which is no real excuse, I know).

August 20, 2008 12:30 PM  
Anonymous Adam N said...

Hi Girish, can't wait to see you here; I've been slogging through the first wave of screenings (off to see the Ceylan in an hour...).

I've seen 24 City and I'm much warmer than "lukewarm"; it's at once audacious and humble in its attempt to reckon with a half century of Chinese history (and the ways in which histories, public and personal, can ever be represented in art). I've always liked Jia, but Still Life, Useless and now 24 City have a generosity that the early films lacked, and while he'll never be a self-effacing filmmaker, I think he's gotten better at putting his subject(s) ahead of his affectations.

I'll remain tight-lipped about the Dardennes till you've seen it, and I'll be curious to hear your thoughts.

The movie I can reccommend most heartily is Lisandro Alonso's Liverpool; a step forward for a filmmaker who was already well ahead of the pack (in my opinion). It's great.
My guess is the Serra will be good, too.

Most frustrating omission (besides the Martel): whither James Gray?

August 20, 2008 1:40 PM  
Anonymous Adam N said...

Oh and don't bother with Adoration.

August 20, 2008 1:42 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Marc, one thing that worries me about the Hong film's absence is that his films have a very patchy distribution record here in America. Only 3 of them are available on region-1 DVD. His previous one, Woman on the Beach, played TIFF but despite that (and critical support) took a long time to find distribution.

Adam, it's good to hear from you. I'm glad to get the inside track on many of these films, and you're whetting my appetite for the Jia: I also am a big admirer of Still Life and Useless. And indeed, whatever happened to James Gray? As I recall, We Own The Night was absent at TIFF as well.

August 20, 2008 2:06 PM  
Blogger girish said...

On another note, a glance reveals that the google search phrase that is tossing people to this site most frequently in the last couple of days is this: "termite white elephant".

August 20, 2008 2:24 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Michael Sicinski has already begun reviewing TIFF films at his site.

August 20, 2008 2:51 PM  
Blogger Maya said...

I spent all day reviewing the Contemporary World Cinema sidebar. Quoting from my own site: "Off the cuff—being an avid supporter of Spanish cinema—I'm intrigued by José Luis Cuerda's Blind Sunflowers (Los Girasoles ciegos), primarily because it features one of my favorite Spanish actresses and spooky Simón from The Orphanage (Maribel Verdú, Roger Príncep). Also, I found Juan Carlos Tabío's Strawberry and Chocolate both sexy and hilarious so I'm primed for more sensuous laughs with Horn of Plenty. And after the visually stunning Bonbon El Perro, I'll look through any cinematic window with Carlos Sorin.

Having seen both Ramin Bahrani's Man Push Cart and Chop Shop, I'm keen to his compassionate observations of marginalized lives and anticipate that Goodbye Solo will not disappoint. With a cast that includes Juliette Binoche, Jérémie Rénier and the incomparable Edith Scob, I'm curious what kind of B-movie vibe might be present in Olivier Assayas's most recent L'Heure d'été (Summer Hours). Impressed with last year's Jar City, and appreciative of his production credits on The Amazing Truth of Queen Raquela, I'm inclined to check out Baltasar Kormakur's Brúðguminn (White Night Wedding). As a board member on The Global Film Initiative, I'm steeped in Indonesian auteur Garin Nugroho (Of Love & Eggs, Opera Jawa) and am anxious to follow through with Under the Tree to monitor his strengthening creativity. Upon Anthony Kauffman's recommendations, I've become interested in Two-Legged Horse and Treeless Mountain; the latter especially because Girish introduced me to So Yong Kim's In Between Days, which I very much enjoyed.

Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I'm now off to process the Discovery/Master sidebars: my favorite tennis match at TIFF. All of this hypotehtical folderol, however, as undoubtedly I will blindly miss the best film at the festival at the very moment I get a craving for apple pie at the Queen Mother Cafe.

Michael, I'm very sorry to hear you won't be joining us this year. Your insights will be sorely missed.

Girish, I have a nicely-wrapped birthday present for you, which I was hoping to give you on the 3rd; but, perhaps we can hook up for Indian food on the 4th?

August 20, 2008 10:39 PM  
Anonymous Adrian said...

People, I am a little disturbed that no mourning for Manny Farber is happening at my favourite website - maybe an unfortunate effect of the news just making the end of the last thread, not the start of this one!

August 20, 2008 10:55 PM  
Anonymous Eli said...

Hello, I have not posted here before, but I am a regular reader!

It seems to me that TIFF is going in a much more commercial direction this year than it was in either '07 or '06. I'm very disappointed that these films are absent:

Melancholia (new Lav Diaz)
Un Lac
Frontière de l'aube
Night and Day
Soi Cowboy
United Red Army

How are films by many of these same directors accepted in previous years but not now? I also wonder why the Visions and Masters programs have been significantly cut down. I'm still very much looking forward to this years festival, but now my chances of seeing those films are severely reduced!

For me, these are the most interesting selections:

35 Rhums
Still Walking
Achilles and the Tortoise
WAVELENGTHS 1 (Films by Nathaniel Dorsky and Jean-Marie Straub)
Un conte de Noël
Tokyo Sonata
24 City
Of Time and the City
Ashes of Time Redux
Terrence Davies' Trilogy
Pointe Courte
My Own Country (Bayan Ko)
Nuit de Chien

August 20, 2008 11:07 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Hi, Adrian! I will reveal my hand: A Manny Farber post is in the works! And coming up this weekend! And I'd love to hear from all of you on it. We can talk Manny non-stop for at least a week.

Thanks for the suggestions, Michael, Eli.

Michael, let's meet up as soon as we get to Toronto. I'll send you my schedule next week as soon as it's ready, along with my cell#.

August 20, 2008 11:11 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Eli, I think that in the 10 years I've been going to TIFF, this might be the year with the greatest number of disappointing omissions. (United Red Army was another one I was looking forward to.)

August 20, 2008 11:44 PM  
Anonymous Michael said...

Maya, I'll miss seeing you as well, but I look forward to any and all coverage of TIFF that you happen to post at your site. Enjoy the festival.

August 21, 2008 12:16 AM  
Blogger girish said...

I just looked up the Cannes issues of Film Comment and Cinema Scope and found a couple of tips:

-- The Russian film Tulpan (in the Discovery program) got strong ratings including 4-star reviews from both J. Hoberman and Gavin Smith. It was #4 on Amy Taubin's Cannes top 10. And it won the Un Certain Regard.

-- The British film Better Things (also in Discovery) was on Gavin Smith's Cannes top 10, and he wrote a lengthy paragraph on it.

August 21, 2008 12:34 AM  
Blogger Tom said...

Hi Girish, I'm a long time reader of your insightful blog and have just started blogging myself.

I can't comment on TIFF but I remembered your post on André Bazin's Writings when I was reading the newish edition of e-cahiers. Dudley Andrew mentioned a complete works happening 'some day' and this looks like a reality now, probably helped by the fiftieth anniversary of his death.

From e-cahiers:
'We have been working on this project for several years with Andre S. Labarthe, borrowing the provisional title from the tribute written by Eric Rohmer on Bazin's death, "La Somme d'Andre Bazin" (with its pun on "sum" and "sleep.") Olivier Faivre is now establishing the definitive text, and it is also to him that we owe the following notes. The whole process is a colossal undertaking. In the meantime this series is intended to reaffirm loyalty while offering a foretaste of the forthcoming book.' -- The last bit being a reference to the article 'Reflections for an Interval and forthcoming pieces to be published in (e)cahiers.

Sorry if this is old news to you, but if not, I wholeheartedly recommend you read it.

August 21, 2008 12:59 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Hi, Tom, it's good to discover your blog, Videotheque Anglais(e)--I look forward to following it! And thanks for the reminder on the e-cahiers piece, which I haven't had a chance to see yet.

August 21, 2008 1:18 PM  
Blogger André Dias said...

Having recently seen it again, I would say you will miss a very good film with Miguel Gomes' AQUELE QUERIDO MÊS DE AGOSTO/OUR BELOVED MONTH OF AUGUST, which was at Cannes Directors' Fortnight. If you understand Spanish, check what Quintín wrote on it.

August 21, 2008 5:18 PM  
Blogger Filipe Furtado said...

I didn't notice Aquele Querido Mês de Agosto on the list. my friend Eduardo Valente thought it was the best film he saw on Cannes and I talked with a couple of other brazilian critics who went there that also liked it a lot.

August 21, 2008 11:44 PM  
Blogger Maya said...

At last year's Toronto International Film Festival, my favorite tennis match was between the Discovery and Masters programs, which I wrote up for Greencine. I'm tempted to replicate the sport this year.

As indieWIRE noted when they recently interviewed Cameron Bailey, the Discovery program has doubled this year—26 titles up from 13—and there's a noticeable increase in American fare—7 films up from 2—but, notwithstanding, it's still an eclectic mix of regions, with 18 countries being represented overall. When asked the reasoning for the increase in slots, and what Bailey's general thoughts were regarding what emerging filmmakers are up to, he responded: "Well this one is by design. Discovery was one of the sections I wanted to work on this year and I'm really proud of how it's turned out. I wanted Discovery to be the place that people go to discover new talent at our festival where we show what we consider to be some of the most exciting new voices in cinema from all over the world. To do that I took off some of the restrictions we had on the program in the past in terms of the premiere status and distribution status. We had quite a number of limitations on what was eligible for our Discovery section in the past. That's changed and as a result I think this is really just a great showcase for new talent in the movies."

It's certainly where I intend to catch some of the festival darlings from Cannes08: Better Things, Hunger, Snow, Tony Manero and Tulpan. And, of course, I couldn't be prouder of SF homeboy Barry Jenkins' Medicine for Melancholy for being included in the line-up. If removing some of the program's previous restrictions accounted for that, I'm all for it because it puts Barry in the running with the other 25 feature-length Discovery titles to be eligible for the Diesel Discovery Award chosen by the Festival press corps, which consists of over 1000 accredited media from around the world. I can honestly say, however, that I doubt I'll catch much of the U.S. fare, presuming these indies will travel Bayside in due course. I'm more prone to take a chance with Zift from Bulgaria, or The Paranoids from Argentina, or the Israeli/Australian animation. Or maybe I'll just let myself be creeped out by Tale 52 from Greece? Ultimately, it comes down to the calendar.

August 22, 2008 12:48 PM  
Blogger Maya said...

With regard to the Masters Program, what constitutes a "master" and why should I submit or—in some cases—resubmit? If ever a sensual power exchange between filmmaker and audience comes into play, it's in this auteurist arena. Without question, Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Tokyo Sonata is my most anticipated cinematic experience from TIFF08 and—if an interview opportunity lifts its head—I will be in bliss. From my mouth to the ears of angels.

Most of these films are North American premieres which had buzz-drenched critical runs at Cannes08 and, of those, I most certainly will catch Lorna's Silence, Of Time and the City, Three Monkeys, and—of course!—24 City. As if these riches aren't enough, I'll return from Toronto just in time to appreciate the Pacific Film Archive's Jia Zhang-ke's retrospective!

The World Premiere of Paul Schraeder's Adam Resurrected likewise has my complete attention, as does Agnès Varda's Les Plages d'Agnès.

August 22, 2008 5:56 PM  
Blogger girish said...

I hadn't heard of Aquele Querido Mês de Agosto until now but I'm sorry I will miss it.

Maya, perhaps Susan will send the Jia series out East to Toronto. I've never seen the shorts Xian Shan and In Public.

August 23, 2008 9:01 AM  
Anonymous Jacob said...

Nod doubt Bahrani's Goodbye Solo will be amazing! Having recently re-seen Jan Troell's The Emigrants/The New Land, I am also curious to see what he's cooked up in Maria Larsson's Everlasting Moment.

August 24, 2008 6:22 AM  
Anonymous NYoung said...

I'd say Petzold is the best filmmaker in Europe at the moment (or at least the best -active- one, as Patrick Keiller's "hiatus" stretches on). "The State I Am In" is his best, for me (I organised a pretty complete retrospective for Bradford Film Festival this year including all the longer movies which exist in English-subtitled form), with "Yella" and "Something To Remind Me" not far behind. I'm somewhat keen, shall we say, to see "Jerichow",

August 31, 2008 7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those interested, Cinematheque Quebecouise in Montreal will be hosting a Jia Zhang-ke retrospective along with a very cleverly organized contemporary Chinese cinema programme. Being said, most of the films will be presented with English subtitles yet you will fin a number of French subtitled print--you can find the details via the link provided below.


August 31, 2008 10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kiarostami's Shirin can also be added to that famous neglected list of this year's TIFF.
Here is the link for Variety review from Viennale.

August 31, 2008 10:42 PM  
Blogger girish said...

Thanks for those, Neil, Anonymous.

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